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RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
- From: "Gerry Iles" <GerryI@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:09:41 +0100
- Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
It is possible to make the text extend beyond the left indent/margin by
inserting a negative kern. I'm not sure it is possible with the right
indent/margin, it may be if the text is right aligned but I think the
wrapping code will stop it happening.
From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Martin Wuerthner
Sent: 05 July 2006 13:07
Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
In message <5056CBC646CB4047BB26120F4377DB719BA761@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It's all tied up with your new margin stuff I guess Martin, which is
> you're asking I presume.
Yes. When rewriting the text formatting code in order to handle tab
stops I found the code to handle left/right indents and could not
figure out how to set them using the user interface. That is clear now
(at least in Xtreme), so I will be able to test that my new code
handles these indents correctly, too.
> For consistency are you thinking of showing margins on the ruler for
> text on a curve just as you do for normal text?
Yes, but the ruler margins I have added are different from (i.e., on
top of) the indents for text on curve. The latter are physical margins
that change the space the complete text story is formatted into.
Actually, as far as the text is concerned, they are not really margins
at all. Instead, you can imagine them cutting out the piece of the
curve that is really wanted. The margins that are set on the ruler
(left, right and first line indents) are logical margins that apply to
paragraphs. You cannot really confuse the two - the text is formatted
using the logical margins (possibly different for each paragraph and
possibly different for the first line of a paragraph as opposed to the
others) into the physical space determined by the physical margins.
Regarding displaying the tab ruler in the ruler bar: A text ruler is a
logical thing that changes the way text is formatted. The tab and
margin positions do not generally match with the visual positions in
the selected piece of text anyway. Imagine having a tab ruler in its
own window in the top left corner of the screen. That would still
work, but attempting to show the ruler aligned to the physical text
position helps the user because the tab stop positions correspond to
the tab positions in the text. At least in some common circumstances.
Clearly, this is not possible for rotated text or text on a curve
unless one wanted to display the ruler on the canvas, which is
probably not a good idea in general.
Even for centered or right-aligned text the tab ruler positions do not
match those in the actual text because no application I have seen so
far moves the tab ruler display to accomodate the justification. The
tabs are always displayed left aligned (with the ruler 0 position
aligned with the left physical text margin).