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RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents

Wouldn't a wrapping toggle button be useful for ordinary upright text?

How many times have you clicked and started typing some text and only
realised you need it to wrap after you've typed serious amounts of text?
You then have to select all, copy, drag out a new baseline and paste to
get what you wanted. This is the sort of thing that new users trip over
and have to ask the forum about (if they don't just give up).

Looking further ahead: We could attach more meaning to this button -
possibly making it be like the difference between artistic text and DTP

And, yes, creating a right margin anywhere is arbitrary but it's right
there, visible in front of you and a single drag sets it how you want.


Alternatively, the logical conclusion of what you're saying, Charles, is
that we shouldn't have separate "boxed" and "unboxed" text types at all!
Very sensible but a lot of work.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Moir
> Sent: 05 July 2006 13:25
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> But what would the button do when there is no margin to wrap to. i.e.
> you clicked and just pasted, and had the silly long line we get now.
> Do we create a right margin at the side of the page - a bit 
> arbitrary to be honest. Do we make it a column wrapping 
> object and pick a margin. If we were to do that you could 
> argue that just pasting a line that goes miles off the page 
> is dumb and shouldn't nee a user to press a button to tell us 
> it's dumb and they want it fixed.
> And if the button doesn't solve that problem then no way is 
> the price of adding a new button to add such a seriously 
> obscure feature, worth paying.
> I mean come on, how many people have text on a curve and have 
> the text going past the end of the curve?  I mean it's not 
> exactly difficult to extend the curve if needs be.
> Charles
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
> > Sent: 05 July 2006 13:09
> > To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Alex Bligh
> > Subject: Re: [XaraXtreme-dev] Text on path indents
> > 
> > Gerry Iles wrote:
> > > What you are saying basically amounts to making the fit
> > text to curve
> > > op also change the story from non-wrapping to wrapping.  
> This will 
> > > make it impossible to create non-wrapping text on a curve.
> > I do not
> > > agree that is "No great loss" and I think we should get the
> > opinion of
> > > a wider range of users than those on this list before
> > removing this capability.
> > 
> > If we had a wrap togglebutton on the info bar, we could 
> wrap or unwrap 
> > such text at will. Then Charles' suggestion could be the default.
> > Wrap/unwrap would be useful in itself.
> > 
> > Alex
> >