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RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Re: Popup slider
- From: "Charles Moir" <CharlesM@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:08:35 +0100
- Subject: RE: [XaraXtreme-dev] Re: Popup slider
Ah OK. I didn't check the original spec. Sorry about that. Interesting
that you find that behaviour annoying, because I find the current
behaviour mildly annoying - that it goes away too easily. I guess I
need to play with it the other way to find out.
Perhaps a half way house is that it stays up if the pointer remains over
it. So you still get the ability to drag and release - see whether you
like it or not, drag some more, without having the hold the mouse down
all the time. Would that be easy?
Having said all that I tend to use these things the Mac way -
click-drag-release, as that's fewest clicks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Bligh
> Sent: 25 July 2006 09:16
> To: dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Alex Bligh
> Subject: Re: [XaraXtreme-dev] Re: Popup slider
> > - It's neither working Windows-like or Mac-like right now. Windows
> > like would be click-release to make it appear and it would
> then stay
> > on screen until you did some other operation. i.e. it would not
> > disappear when you have finished dragging as it does now.
> This is how
> > Adobe sliders work and so if we're going to do this style we really
> > need to work like theirs (it's what all Adobe users will be
> used to).
> > This has a few advantages actually - it stays on screen so you can
> > keep adjusting the values without it disappearing. It's
> only when you
> > click elsewhere that makes it go away.
> Hmmm.... It originally did that, but when I was checking it
> against the spec I read this (from the web site):
> > The Windows-like way: The user clicks and releases the
> button, in > which case the pop-up should appear and remain
> on screen until they > either click again outside the bounds
> of the slider window, or have > clicked and selected a value
> from the slider (i.e. on mouse-up on the > actual slider).
> in other words they can do a click-release to make the >
> slider appear, and now do a click-drag-release to select a
> value, at > which point the pop-up disappears.
> > (Worth noting this is not how sliders behave in Adobe Illustrator.
> > They stay up until the next click outside the window, so
> they are > rather more menu like to be honest, but then they
> keep the menu up > even after a click on the slider. It only
> goes away with the first > click outside the slider, so
> that's not menu-like at all.)
> It's a one line change to fix the behaviour, but personally I
> like your original idea best.
> The trouble is the thing sticks around. Note even with the
> current behaviour you can keep adjusting without things
> disappearing - just keep the mouse button down. Adobe doesn't
> benefit from this because it (presumably) doesn't update in real time.
> I'll comment out the relevant bit of code and I'm betting you
> will want it to revert to previous (far less annoying) behaviour.